{"id":134431,"date":"2024-07-24T21:23:54","date_gmt":"2024-07-25T04:23:54","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.stevenrhine.com\/?p=134431"},"modified":"2024-08-06T04:32:34","modified_gmt":"2024-08-06T11:32:34","slug":"bp-microsystems-fp-1710-universal-programmer-teardown-soon","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.stevenrhine.com\/?p=134431","title":{"rendered":"BP Microsystems FP-1710 Universal Programmer + Teardown (Soon)"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Just Arrived&#8230; <a href=\"https:\/\/web.archive.org\/web\/20250909084843\/https:\/\/www.bpmmicro.com\/product\/1710-manual-programmer\/\">BP Microsystems FP-1710<\/a> Universal Programmer + Teardown (Soon)<\/p>\n<p>It will take me a little while to learn this programmer. However, it will be very handy because it supports some devices that my Xeltek programmers do not. Therefore, I am eager to start using it. Additionally, I have started to gather programming adapters for the common chip packages and the unusual ones that are unique to BP Microsystems. This preparation will ensure I can handle a wide variety of programming tasks. As I become more familiar with the new programmer, I expect to see improvements in efficiency. I am confident that this small investment will pay off in the long run.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.stevenrhine.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/07\/Rhine-Labs-BP-Microsystems-FP-1710-Programmer-scaled.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-134477\" src=\"https:\/\/www.stevenrhine.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/07\/Rhine-Labs-BP-Microsystems-FP-1710-Programmer-1024x576.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"500\" height=\"281\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.stevenrhine.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/07\/Rhine-Labs-BP-Microsystems-FP-1710-Programmer-1024x576.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.stevenrhine.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/07\/Rhine-Labs-BP-Microsystems-FP-1710-Programmer-300x169.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.stevenrhine.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/07\/Rhine-Labs-BP-Microsystems-FP-1710-Programmer-768x432.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.stevenrhine.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/07\/Rhine-Labs-BP-Microsystems-FP-1710-Programmer-1536x864.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/www.stevenrhine.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/07\/Rhine-Labs-BP-Microsystems-FP-1710-Programmer-2048x1152.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 500px) 100vw, 500px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Unboxing Video<\/p>\n<p><iframe title=\"Unboxing A $11,995 BP Microsystems FP-1710 Universal Programmer\" width=\"640\" height=\"360\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/o5m2dKzDC_U?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>Compare to Actel Silicon Sculptor 3 same Physical Size.<br \/>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/www.stevenrhine.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/07\/Rhine-Labs-BP-Microsystems-FP-1710-and-Silicon-Sculpter-III-Programmers.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-134475\" src=\"https:\/\/www.stevenrhine.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/07\/Rhine-Labs-BP-Microsystems-FP-1710-and-Silicon-Sculpter-III-Programmers-1024x576.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"500\" height=\"281\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.stevenrhine.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/07\/Rhine-Labs-BP-Microsystems-FP-1710-and-Silicon-Sculpter-III-Programmers-1024x576.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.stevenrhine.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/07\/Rhine-Labs-BP-Microsystems-FP-1710-and-Silicon-Sculpter-III-Programmers-300x169.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.stevenrhine.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/07\/Rhine-Labs-BP-Microsystems-FP-1710-and-Silicon-Sculpter-III-Programmers-768x432.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.stevenrhine.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/07\/Rhine-Labs-BP-Microsystems-FP-1710-and-Silicon-Sculpter-III-Programmers.jpg 1280w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 500px) 100vw, 500px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Self Test and Unboxing of a Common Dip 48 Adapter the <a href=\"https:\/\/bpmmicro.com\/product\/fsm48d\/\">BP Microsystems FSM48D<\/a> Adapter.<\/p>\n<p><iframe title=\"BP Microsystems 1710 Universal Programmer Self Test and BPM FSM48D Adapter Unboxing\" width=\"640\" height=\"360\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/8cuVls15kWw?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>The new programming adapters from BPM are notably expensive, primarily catering to large production companies rather than smaller providers or repair shops. These high costs can be prohibitive for smaller entities. However, there is an active and robust secondary market where these adapters can be purchased at a significantly lower cost, typically ranging from $25 to $80, including shipping. In some cases, if the adapter is particularly rare or unique\u2014a so-called &#8220;unicorn&#8221;\u2014the price can escalate into the hundreds of dollars.\u00a0 This provides buyers with various options depending on their specific needs and budget constraints.<\/p>\n<p>An interesting\u00a0 feature of these BPM adapters is the presence of counters that display the number of insertions and\/or programming operations performed. It&#8217;s important to note that each programming session, which includes a programming operation followed by a verification step, is counted as two separate insertions. This detail is crucial for users to understand as it impacts the lifespan and usage tracking of the adapters. Here is One with 30 and one with 366,374 Insertions.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.stevenrhine.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/07\/Rhine-Labs-BP-Microsystems-FP-1710-Programmer-SM48D-Counts.png\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-134534 size-medium\" src=\"https:\/\/www.stevenrhine.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/07\/Rhine-Labs-BP-Microsystems-FP-1710-Programmer-SM48D-Counts-291x300.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"291\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.stevenrhine.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/07\/Rhine-Labs-BP-Microsystems-FP-1710-Programmer-SM48D-Counts-291x300.png 291w, https:\/\/www.stevenrhine.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/07\/Rhine-Labs-BP-Microsystems-FP-1710-Programmer-SM48D-Counts.png 713w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 291px) 100vw, 291px\" \/><\/a> <a href=\"https:\/\/www.stevenrhine.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/07\/Rhine-Labs-BP-Microsystems-FP-1710-Programmer-FX4ASMR48TD-Counts.png\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-134532 size-medium\" src=\"https:\/\/www.stevenrhine.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/07\/Rhine-Labs-BP-Microsystems-FP-1710-Programmer-FX4ASMR48TD-Counts-291x300.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"291\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.stevenrhine.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/07\/Rhine-Labs-BP-Microsystems-FP-1710-Programmer-FX4ASMR48TD-Counts-291x300.png 291w, https:\/\/www.stevenrhine.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/07\/Rhine-Labs-BP-Microsystems-FP-1710-Programmer-FX4ASMR48TD-Counts.png 713w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 291px) 100vw, 291px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Unboxing and Testing More BP Microsystems Chip Programming Adapters <a href=\"https:\/\/bpmmicro.com\/product\/fsm32p\/\">FSM32P<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/bpmmicro.com\/product\/fasm63fbga\/\">ASM63FBGA<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/bpmmicro.com\/product\/fsm48ubga\/\">SM248UBGA<\/a><\/p>\n<p><iframe title=\"Unboxing BP Microsystems Chip Programming BPM Adapters SM-32P,  ASM63FBGA, SM248UBGA\" width=\"640\" height=\"360\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/FXDqdZbwN3Q?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>These three Adapters on the secondary market sold through auction listings at $28 each, including shipping. This market is both plentiful and reasonably priced. There are some risks associated with purchasing used adapters. For instance, they may have worn-out sockets or could be dead on arrival (DOA). Fortunately, these adapters are relatively simple devices. Repairing or replacing a worn socket is typically straightforward and can be done without much difficulty. Then you get lucky and find one that has just a few insertions like this one only 10 it is brand new.<br \/>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/www.stevenrhine.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/07\/Rhine-Labs-BP-Microsystems-FP-1710-Programmer-SM48UBGA-Counts.png\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-134535 size-medium\" src=\"https:\/\/www.stevenrhine.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/07\/Rhine-Labs-BP-Microsystems-FP-1710-Programmer-SM48UBGA-Counts-291x300.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"291\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.stevenrhine.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/07\/Rhine-Labs-BP-Microsystems-FP-1710-Programmer-SM48UBGA-Counts-291x300.png 291w, https:\/\/www.stevenrhine.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/07\/Rhine-Labs-BP-Microsystems-FP-1710-Programmer-SM48UBGA-Counts.png 713w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 291px) 100vw, 291px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>I reached out to BPM for The cost to have an algorithm file created for an older EPROM, the TMS2716, is now quoted at $2,000, plus the cost of 20 samples and shipping. This is insane! While I could understand this pricing for a new device that requires significant labor, the TMS2716 has been around for nearly 50 years and well documented. Alternatively, there are other options, such as the Elnec Dataman with an adapter or locating an old <a href=\"https:\/\/www.stevenrhine.com\/?p=134439\">Data I\/O 29B<\/a> or UNisite and have support for many other older proms and logic devices for a fraction of the cost. Moreover, I am sure BPM would include the algorithm you paid for in their normal device list, adding significant value to their programmer. I am not sure if BPM offers an SDK to be able to write your own algo&#8217;s i will ask as that would be a good thing.<br \/>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/www.stevenrhine.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/07\/BP-Microsystems-Add-a-Device-Old-TMS2716-Epeom-Algo-Quote.png\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-134539\" src=\"https:\/\/www.stevenrhine.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/07\/BP-Microsystems-Add-a-Device-Old-TMS2716-Epeom-Algo-Quote-1024x642.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"500\" height=\"314\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.stevenrhine.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/07\/BP-Microsystems-Add-a-Device-Old-TMS2716-Epeom-Algo-Quote-1024x642.png 1024w, https:\/\/www.stevenrhine.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/07\/BP-Microsystems-Add-a-Device-Old-TMS2716-Epeom-Algo-Quote-300x188.png 300w, https:\/\/www.stevenrhine.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/07\/BP-Microsystems-Add-a-Device-Old-TMS2716-Epeom-Algo-Quote-768x482.png 768w, https:\/\/www.stevenrhine.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/07\/BP-Microsystems-Add-a-Device-Old-TMS2716-Epeom-Algo-Quote.png 1385w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 500px) 100vw, 500px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>More Later.<\/p>\n<p>The Hardware is the Same as the Silicon Sculptor 3 so may not do a teardown.<\/p>\n<div class=\"pld-like-dislike-wrap pld-template-1\">\r\n    <div class=\"pld-like-wrap  pld-common-wrap\">\r\n    <a href=\"javascript:void(0)\" class=\"pld-like-trigger pld-like-dislike-trigger  \" title=\"\" data-post-id=\"134431\" data-trigger-type=\"like\" data-restriction=\"ip\" data-already-liked=\"0\">\r\n                        <i class=\"fas fa-thumbs-up\"><\/i>\r\n                <\/a>\r\n    <span class=\"pld-like-count-wrap pld-count-wrap\">0    <\/span>\r\n<\/div><div class=\"pld-dislike-wrap  pld-common-wrap\">\r\n    <a href=\"javascript:void(0)\" class=\"pld-dislike-trigger pld-like-dislike-trigger  \" title=\"\" data-post-id=\"134431\" data-trigger-type=\"dislike\" data-restriction=\"ip\" data-already-liked=\"0\">\r\n                        <i class=\"fas fa-thumbs-down\"><\/i>\r\n                <\/a>\r\n    <span class=\"pld-dislike-count-wrap pld-count-wrap\">0<\/span>\r\n<\/div><\/div>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Just Arrived&#8230; BP Microsystems FP-1710 Universal Programmer + Teardown (Soon) It will take me a little while to learn this programmer. 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